Saturday, January 5, 2013

Top Song Defenses: POS

Please post the final round of song defense feedback as a comment here (remember to include the speaker's use of ethos, pathos, and logos).

16 comments:

  1. Zack Sicard - Crash Into Me - Dave Matthews Band

    Ethos- Gives credit. Billboard 1997 Best rock performance

    Logos- Brother saw in concert and said it was the best performance he had ever seen

    Pathos- Talked about how the song is good for love and relationships


    Taylor Portanova - Sweet Caroline -Neil Diamond

    Ethos- Gives credit to Neil Diamond and the song for being so popular.

    Logos- Inspired by Caroline Kennedy because he saw her in a magazine and symbolic of Boston.

    Pathos- Played at many sporting events.

    Ashley Boulos - Big Yellow Taxi - Joni Mitchell

    Ethos- Joni has won 15 grammy awards. Was supposed to plat at Woodstock.

    Logos- Good overall message "Dont know what you've got til' its gone."

    Pathos- Redone by the Counting Crows. Shows how popular the song was.

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  2. 1.
    Defender: Zack Sicard
    Song: Crash into me
    Artist: Dave Mathews Band
    Ethos: Talks about relationships
    Pathos: Brother saw Dave Matthews Band live
    Logos: Popular Artist
    Feedback: Good job explaining why you liked the song, you could have talked a little more about the band though.

    2.
    Defender: Taylor Portanova
    Song: Sweet Caroline
    Artist: Neil Diamond
    Ethos: Inspired by a photo of Caroline Kennedy in a People Magazine in the late 60's.
    Pathos: Played at many sporting events symbolic of Boston
    Logos: Everyone from Boston knows the song
    Feedback: Good job explaining the song and the Ethos, Pathos, and Logos individually

    Ashley Boulos

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  3. Zack Sicard - Crash Into Me - Dave Matthews Band

    Ethos- Gives credit. Billboard 1997 Best rock performance

    Logos- Brother saw in concert and said it was the best performance he had ever seen

    Pathos- Talked about how the song is good for love and relationships


    Taylor Portanova - Sweet Caroline -Neil Diamond

    Ethos- Gives credit to Neil Diamond and the song for being so popular.

    Logos- Inspired by Caroline Kennedy because he saw her in a magazine and symbolic of Boston.

    Pathos- Played at many sporting events.

    Ashley Boulos - Big Yellow Taxi - Joni Mitchell

    Ethos- Joni has won 15 grammy awards. Was supposed to plat at Woodstock.

    Logos- Good overall message "Dont know what you've got til' its gone."

    Pathos- Redone by the Counting Crows. Shows how popular the song was.

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  4. Zack's:
    Ethos-reminded him of his brother
    Pathos-mending relationships
    Logos-Billboard song
    Feedback-You mentioned everything; short, sweet,and to the point.

    Taylor's:
    Ethos-Caroline Kennedy
    Pathos-Talk about how it relates to Boston
    Logos-Everyone around here knows the song
    Feedback-You just listed everything, other than that good.

    Ashley:
    Ethos-Talked about Joni's awards
    Pathos-Talked about its relatability
    Logos-Discussed the cover
    Feedback-Just listed everything, other than that well done.

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  5. Zach Sicard Dave Matthew’s Band-Crash Into Me

    Relates to anyone who wants to mend past relationships
    Has won a ton of awards
    Needs a little more explanation but otherwise good job.

    Taylor Neil Diamond- Sweet Caroline
    Inspired by Caroline Kennedy because he saw a picture of her
    Played at many boston sporting events and is symbolic of boston
    Everyone from Boston knows this song
    Good job explaining everything and nice song choice

    Ashley Joni Mitchell- Big Yellow Taxi
    Joni has won 15 grammys
    Supposed to play in Woodstock
    Has a good message and you don’t realize wat you have till its gone
    So popular that it has been remade a few times

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  6. Defender:Zack S. Song: Crash Into Me Artist: Dave Matthews Band

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    ETHOS

    Best Rock Group nomination










    PATHOS

    Relatable to romantic feelings











    LOGOS
    Really good performers









    Feedback for peer: A bit slow for my taste as well as some…questionable metaphors, but a decent song for sure.




    Defender: Song: Sweet Caroline Artist:Neil Diamond

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    ETHOS

    Inspired by Caroline Kennedy











    PATHOS
    Symbolic









    LOGOS Heritage, very relatable to the city of Boston








    Feedback for peer: A bit slow but it has beautiful lyrics.




    Defender: Ashley B Song: Big Yellow Taxi Artist:Joni Mitchell

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    ETHOS
    Won 15 grammy awards almost palyed at Woodstock












    PATHOS
    Taking things for granted












    LOGOS
    Covered by many bands









    Feedback for peer: Very nice little song with a good message.



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  7. 50 The Poetry of Song
    Top Song Defenses: Ethos, Pathos, and Logos
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    My Name: Matthew Litchfield

    Defender: Zach Song: Crash Into Me Artist: Dave Matthews Band
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    ETHOS Billboard top something
    PATHOS Song brother saw in concert
    LOGOS
    TOTAL 7/9
    Feedback for peer:
    I think I missed part of your argument for the song, because all I heard was something about Billboard and your brother seeing it in a concert (which are both good things to say). Try to make the class more aware of your presence.


    Defender: Taylor P Song: Sweet Caroline Artist: Neil Diamond
    ETHOS Neil Diamond about Caroline Kennedy (saw her in People magazine)
    PATHOS Emotional song
    LOGOS Symbolic of Boston
    TOTAL 6/9
    Feedback for peer:
    I liked your argument for your song because it’s symbolic of Boston – go Mass! But in terms of the best song in history, a region specific song might not be the best in the world.

    Defender: Ashley B Song: Big Yellow Taxi Artist: Joni Mitchell
    ETHOS Popular by the band
    PATHOS People take things for granted
    LOGOS
    TOTAL 8/9
    Feedback for peer:
    I’ve never heard that song before, but I liked it a lot. Good defense – people definitely take things for granted.

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  8. Defender: Zach S Song: Crash Into Me Artist: Dave Matthews Band

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    ETHOS Talks about how his brother saw the band live and said it was the best performance he’d seen


    PATHOS Talks about how the song relates to anyone who has been in a relationship




    LOGOS Talks about how the song was nominated for best rock performance


    Feedback for peer: The song might have a somewhat limited audience since not everyone has been in a relationship before.




    Defender: Taylor P Song: Sweet Caroline Artist: Neil Diamond

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    ETHOS




    PATHOS




    LOGOS Says that it is played at many sporting events and many people know the song


    Feedback for peer: You seem to be slightly confused as to what ethos pathos and logos are.



    Defender: Ashley B Song: Big Yellow Taxi Artist: Joni Mitchell

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    ETHOS



    PATHOS Talks about the message of “You don’t know what you’ve got ‘till it’s gone”



    LOGOS Talks about the popularity of the artist

    Feedback for peer: You seem to have given ethos to the artist instead of yourself.

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  9. Defender: Ashley B
    Song: Big Yellow Taxi
    Artist: Joni Mitchell
    Ethos- won 15 grammys
    Pathos- good overall message
    Pathos- redone by another band
    Good explanation of the credibility of the song and the success.

    Defender: Taylor
    Song: Sweet Caroline
    Artist: Neil Diamond
    Ethos-inspired by a photo of Caroline Kennedy in a People Magazine in the late 60's
    Pathos-Played at many sporting events including the Red Sox games in the middle of the 7th inning. A happy uplifting song appealing to many people
    Logos-Symbolic of Boston and it's love for sports
    Good explanation of the background of the song and why it’s important

    Defender: Zack
    Song: Crash Into Me
    Artist: Dave Matthews Band
    Ethos-Reminds him of his brother
    Pathos-Relatable to anyone in relationships
    Logos-Top song
    Feedback for peer: Nice explanation of how you relate to the song and what it means to you.

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  10. http://twixxxxxxxx.blogspot.com/2013/01/defense-rubric.html my whole rubric

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  11. Defender:Zach S Song: Crash Into Me Artist: Dave Matthews Band


    ETHOS
    His brother saw it live and said it was an amazing performance, really likes the band


    PATHOS
    Wanting to repair a relationship-relatable


    LOGOS
    Billboard list, pretty popular



    Feedback for peer: This is a really good song, and it’s good that you mentioned how you like the band a lot and how your brother saw it live. It was also pretty popular so that helps to defend it.




    Defender: Tayl Song: Sweet Caroline Artist: Neil Diamond


    ETHOS
    Inspired by a picture of Caroline Kennedy

    PATHOS
    Very popular, many people know it locally

    LOGOS
    Everyone seems to have heard it or knows it



    Feedback for peer: You did an ok job explaining it but you did not relate it to yourself on a personal level. Otherwise it was good, I never knew that that was who it was written about! Maybe try connecting it in broader terms instead of just Boston.




    Defender: Song: Big Yellow Taxi Artist: Joni Mitchell


    ETHOS
    Really likes the song

    PATHOS
    Relatable, has a message

    LOGOS
    Singer has won many awards, is a very popular song


    Feedback for peer: You did a good job on covering all of the points, You maybe needed to relate it to a personal level more but other than that good job.

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  12. Defender: Zach S Song: Crash Into Me Artist: Dave Matthews Band

    ETHOS - Brother saw it - 2
    PATHOS - about relationships - 2
    LOGOS - Billboard top song - 2

    Feedback for peer: Good defense, good connection to the concert.

    Defender: Taylor P Song: Sweet Caroline Artist: Neil Diamond

    Ethos - - 1
    Pathos - About girl/ love - 2
    Logos - Symbolic, Boston area knows song - 2
    Feedback for peer: good choice very famous song.

    Defender: Ashley B Song: Big Yellow Taxi Artist: Joni Mitchell

    Ethos - 1
    Pathos - Speaker connected to symbolic meaning - 2
    Logos - Won 16 grammys, Song redone - 3
    Feedback for peer: good artist, good points for logos.

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  13. Zack Sicard - Crash Into Me - Dave Matthews Band

    Ethos - a famous song with a top of the billboards places.

    Logos - Brother saw in concert.

    Pathos - Talked about how it relates to him, and his family.

    Taylor Portanova - Sweet Caroline - Neil Diamond

    Ethos - Gives good credit to the artist for allowing the song to gain so much fame.

    Logos - Inspired by Caroline Kennedy

    Pathos - Played in boston, and at many sports events.

    Ashley Boulos - Big Yellow Taxi - Joni Mitchell

    Ethos - She has won 15 grammys.

    Logos - Good Idea, thoughts, and information on the artist.

    Pathos - Someone redid the song because of how good it is.

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  14. LEVI KAHN
    The Poetry of Song
    Top Song Defenses: Ethos, Pathos, and Logos
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    My Name:

    Defender: Ashley Liebherr Song: Drops of Jupiter Artist: Train

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    ETHOS


    Train is famous, popular group
    Speaker is credible because song is about his own feelings
    PATHOS
    LOGOS
    Feedback for peer: Good job selecting a song and defending your choice, but you should go into more detail for each category when describing the ethos, pathos, and logos for the song.

    Defender: Doug McKeen Song: American Pie Artist: Don McLean

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    ETHOS

    Abstract story of his life and the times
    PATHOS
    LOGOS
    Feedback for peer: Great song and explanation of the song was solid. Defense of ethos, pathos, and logos was clear and straight forward.


    Defender: Seth K. Song: Valley of the Kings Artist: Gamma Ray

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    ETHOS


    Great background and story of band.
    PATHOS

    LOGOS
    Not stereotypical metal song or lyrics.


    Feedback for peer: Interesting song and good job explaining and giving background on the band and the song.



    Defender: Jake Hallgren Song: Livin On a Prayer Artist: Bon Jovi

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    ETHOS

    Good message, make it through tough times


    PATHOS


    Appeals to audience, very popular/famous


    LOGOS

    One of most listened to and bought songs on itunes 26 years after its release
    Feedback for peer:

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  15. LEVI KAHN
    Defender: Shin F. Song: We As Americans Artist: Eminem

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    ETHOS


    Police are never there when he needs then, always there to arrest him

    PATHOS


    Many people have this feeling across the world and USA


    LOGOS


    Eminem is the greatest rapper ever, multi-platinum

    Feedback for peer: Good explanation and defense, find edited version next time.




    Defender: Connor R Song: Closing Time Artist: Semi-Sonic

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    ETHOS


    Everyone knows and likes this song

    PATHOS

    LOGOS


    Very famous, widely known song

    Feedback for peer: No mention of pathos in explanation, but good song choice and explanation.




    Defender: Matt L. Song: 100 Years Artist: Five for Fighting

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    ETHOS

    Top of the charts for a long time


    PATHOS


    Very emotional, appeals to mortality of humans

    LOGOS

    Appreciate what you have now, very good message
    Very popular song

    Feedback for peer: Very good song choice, also explanation was clear and made sense.

    Defender: Andrew Morse Song: Police and Thieves Artist: The Clash

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    ETHOS


    Author understands both sides of argument

    PATHOS


    People can relate to this song and its message of justice and the police system
    LOGOS


    Famous song, popular argument

    Feedback for peer: Interesting song choice
    Defender: Kayla G. Song: Let it Be Artist: The Beatles

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    ETHOS


    Greatest, most famous, most popular band of all time

    PATHOS


    Sad, appeals to emotions of everyone in tough times or struggling, universal theme


    LOGOS

    Very famous, often played song


    Feedback for peer: Great choice of song, interesting facts about the band, good explanation and defense also.




    Defender: Nicole M. Song: Don’t Fear the Reaper Artist: Blue Oyster Cult

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    ETHOS


    No one can escape death, incredibly famous song
    PATHOS


    Eternal power, trying to escape death, universal message
    LOGOS


    Very popular song, universal theme


    Feedback for peer: Great choice of song, very good defense, background, and explanation of the meaning of the song.



    Defender: Melanie M. Song: The Grand Finale Artist: Set it Off

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    ETHOS

    Can’t control bad things, universal theme


    PATHOS



    Meaning relates to relevant topics, appeals to victims of tragedy such as school shooting


    LOGOS


    Reflects on tough times, bad things out of our control

    Feedback for peer: Cool song and interesting explanation and description of the song.



    Defender: Jaime Weaver Song: Never Grow Up Artist: Taylor Swift

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    ETHOS


    About her life and her experiences, shows her feelings, very famous/popular artist


    PATHOS


    Appeals to everyone, wants to stay young all their life with the things they love


    LOGOS


    Shows her feelings, relates to others’ feelings


    Feedback for peer: Song has one point of view, good explanation and good relation to the lives of everyone.

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  16. LEVI KAHN
    PATHOS


    Funny, relatable to all different types of people and genres of music
    LOGOS


    Very popular song and artist

    Feedback for peer: Good song choice and good explanation. Could have defended the song better



    Defender: Zack F. Song: Pure Imagination Artist: Richie Cunning

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    ETHOS


    Underground rap artist, widespread fan base






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    PATHOS


    Relates to Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, everyone can imagine happier things






    1


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    LOGOS


    Seems to be in tune with reality and raps with great personality





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    /9

    Feedback for peer: Unique song choice and excellent explanation for your choice of song.




    Defender: Derek F. Song: Ambition Artist: Wale

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    ETHOS


    Popular song, expresses the best part of rap talking about their struggle in life and how it helps them now






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    PATHOS


    Appeals to ambition and power of everyday people striving for better things






    1


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    LOGOS


    Contains the best part of rap





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    /9

    Feedback for peer: Great song choice, great explanation and defense as well.




    Defender: Beck Song: Calling Lightning with a Scythe Artist: Howlin Rain

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    ETHOS


    Not popular, but still a great band and create interesting music that can affect everyone






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    PATHOS



    Relates to broad themes such as war and destruction that everyone faces





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    LOGOS

    Intricate musical structure






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    /9

    Feedback for peer: Unique song choice, solid defense of why you chose this song and why it is your top song of all time.




    Defender: Dannaie Song: Don’t Let Me Get Me Artist: Pink

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    ETHOS


    Pink is a very successful and popular artist






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    PATHOS


    Everyone wishes to be someone else for a day, universal idea, people are better than they think they are






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    LOGOS








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    /9

    Feedback for peer: Good song choice, but discuss ethos and logos more.



    Defender: Anthony Song: Hotel California Artist: The Eagles

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    ETHOS


    Very popular song from a very popular band






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    PATHOS


    Appeals to emotions of all listeners






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    LOGOS


    Eagles are very successful and have been around for almost 40 years





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    /9

    Feedback for peer: Classic song, could have explained it more.



    Defender: Hannah L. Song: Slide Artist: The Goo Goo Dolls

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    ETHOS


    Song has always been popular, reached #1

    PATHOS


    Emotional song, touches everyone

    LOGOS


    Famous song, #1 hit
    Feedback for peer: Great song choice, good explanation of song and interesting facts also.


    Defender: Zack Sicard Song: Crash Into Me Artist: Dave Mathews Band

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    ETHOS


    Very popular band, sold millions of records

    PATHOS


    Appeals to emotions and feelings of writer and audience
    LOGOS


    Famous song, big hit on the charts
    Feedback for peer: Great song choice, great explanation.


    Defender: Taylor P. Song: Sweet Caroline Artist: Neil Diamond

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    ETHOS


    Famous artist, very popular singer

    PATHOS


    Happy, appeals to joyful audience

    LOGOS


    Famous hit song, popular in Boston especially
    Feedback for peer: Famous song choice, interesting explanation and facts about song.



    Defender: Ashley B. Song: Big Yellow Taxi Artist: Joni Mitchell

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    ETHOS


    Famous, popular artist in 60s and 70s
    PATHOS


    Appeals to emotions of the audience and listeners


    LOGOS


    Great song, very popular
    Feedback for peer: Interesting song choice, good explanation.

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