Friday, September 11, 2009

Shakespeare and Predestination


As we study William Shakespeare and read Romeo and Juliet in class, consider the following prompt:

The concept of predestination is reflected in the work of Shakespeare. The lives of men and women are "mapped out in the stars", and attempts to transcend or disrupt this order, or chain of being, only lead to tragedy. Does belief in predestination exist in some form today? Do we subscribe to a similar or different philosophy? How does predestination relate to, or conflict with, the "American Dream"? How might you categorize the belief systems of our world today? Do you believe that your destiny is mapped out for you, or do you think that you control your own fate? (3-5 paragraphs; due via post and hard copy 9-19).

43 comments:

Anonymous said...

I think that it might be a little bit of both. Your destiny might already be mapped out for you but that doesn't necessarily mean that you have to follow it.Like for example if your parents are running a family business and your really little, you might have to help them out for a little while, then when you find out that you are good at it and can't find anything else, you end up settling for that instead of what you like and are passionate about.

But on the same token though you might not be in that particular situation and besides you control what you want to do with your life. And you shouldn't let anyone else tell you other wise. For example I know I kid that goes to my school, that was told to invest his/her life in Microsoft Office career because that person gets it and is really good at it.But that person decided to try something else because it was too boring. And that person is an Automotive Technician now and loves it there. And is now on Co-op and has been in Auto ever since.

However there is a slight catch when you decide what want to do with your life because no matter what you do there is bound to be trouble there at some point. An another example, is when I was little I was "trying out" different tasks and seeing which one is right for me. Now all of the sudden I get the opportunity to really see what I'm good at by exploring different trades at my school.I always liked IT and no matter what I tried to do it just kept following me with different problems to solve. And when I kept at it for a little while, and when I officially decided I loved it I decided to just go for it and now I am job shadowing with IT at my school and got a job offering but we'll have to see how that's going to play out.

- Lauren Wefers

rdewar said...

Good prompt.
Let me know when you will be discussing.

Anonymous said...

Here is another example of destiny going both ways.There was a girl in my shop that was kind of into it and was contemplating whether or not she should stay or leave. She didn't pick this shop and ended here because there was no where else to go. But she was with us for a year, then switched to Ad & Design because of a few reasons. She really couldn't take it any more and she really loved art but you aren't allowed to do art in my shop anymore so it is just as well.

I do run into her a lot though and talk we talk about stuff just like we used to in shop. Now she's is a totally different person.She decided when she graduates this year she wants to go and create her own design studio. And there was a boy in my shop that was a little bit passionate about our shop. But he always asked others to do work for him and was really really good at brain storming. Now he goes to regular high school and my shop teacher and some of the other boys in my shop talk to him.But he always wanted to be a Video Game designer/Video Game programmer or continue with IT. Now he is thinking about going into the military.

Another example is when a boy in my shop LOVED IT here. But he always complained about something because he thinks he knows everything about IT and he doesn't. Now he is enrolled in pre-college enrollment program and is going to school to Johnson and Whales in I think Providence. And he's taking an electronics class and is liking it and is thinking about getting a future job in the electronics field instead of IT.

-Lauren Wefers

kate said...

Predestination still exists in some form day. Fate is an example of predestination still existing in one way. Believing that if it is meant to be it will happen. Same thing resembling if you believe that it will work out; if you believe in it that it will happen. Are all examples that predestination still exists in today’s society.
I think it does have some conflicts with the American dream. For instance when you think of the American dream you think of the freedom, equality, and opportunity traditionally held to be available to every American. Then predestination tell you that your life has already been mapped out and you don’t have a choice about it. It’s like what happen to having a choice about what you want to do, or having that freedom to decide on your life.
In my opinion I think we control our own fate but I do think there are predestinated things out there. For instance I think there are certain out there that will happen to you no matter what. Then there are these things that will happen to you no matter what to; like there is no where around certain things.

kseetaram

petefam4 said...

I don't believe in predestination i believe you can change your destiny if you try hard enough to put your self in a better place. I think the only reason that you can not reach a goal is because you didn't try hard enough or work hard enough to reach your goal. I think that is the only excuse for not being able to do something is yourself. For example there are many things that are simply unpredictable such as Barrack Obama being elected as president there is no way that it could be predetermined that a boy with a single mother living in the hood of Chicago could one day be president of the U.S.A. There are people in this world that are in comas for years that wake up. There are a lot of storys which involve things which could simply be described as something that as a miracle. I think that there is no such thing as predestination. I think there are to many things in the world that are simply indescribable. In conclusion, i believe that there is no such thing as predestination.

Nick p

Anonymous said...

Miranda Donato
English: G
9/19/09


Even though predestination was most popular in Shakespeare’s time, I think some people still believe in it today. Although beliefs in predestination are still around, I think the philosophy is different. Most people, who still believe in it, don’t really think it is mapped out in the stars. They usually just think that everything happens for a reason. They think that even when something goes horribly wrong that it was suppose to happen. I think that nowadays people think that God plans out your whole life, instead of the stars. That is why I think that people still believe in predestination, just not exactly in the same way.
I think that predestination both relates to the American Dream, and conflicts with it. Predestination relates to the American Dream, because you could have all the things you want, and know that life was suppose to be like that. That destiny had this planned for you all along. It conflicts, because if you are not living the American dream, and do not have a nice house or any other nice things, then it seems that no matter how hard you try, there is nothing you can do to get there. Predestination simply says that you weren’t even supposed to be living like that, and there is nothing you can do but deal with it. That is why I think that predestination both relates to the American dream, and conflicts with it.
In our world today, you can either believe in predestination, or look at life through facts. You can either believe in fate, or look to see if what is happening in your life makes sense. Some people believe in predestination to a certain extent. I think that some people truly believe that there is nothing you can ever do to change your fate, since it is already mapped out. Those who believe in predestination to an extent, think that certain things are meant to happen, but if you really want to, you can change your life. Then there are those who think that there is no way your destiny is planned out and that you control your own life. That is what I think the belief system is today.
I think I would fit into the category of believing in predestination to an extent. I think that some things you do and choices you make are all for a reason, but I think that you can change some things too. If you are not happy with the way things are in your life, then I think you can change them. Maybe I was meant to change them. Sometimes I don’t really know why I make the choices I do, and some could blame it on a gut feeling, but I think I was supposed to make that choice. That is why I believe in predestination to an extent.

Anonymous said...

The definition of predestination is inevitable or necessary fate to which a particular person or thing is destined. Predestination is also reflected in the work of Shakespeare. So do you believe that your destiny is mapped out for you, or do you think that you control your own fate? My answer would have to be that I believe a little of both.

While I certainly believe that I create my own destiny I also think that my destiny is linked with the concept of fate. In other words, I think that it's a good idea to take responsibility of yourself but to keep in mind that where you end up isn't entirely under your control. For instance you have no control over other peoples' actions. For example drunk drivers, a death in the family and who we get for a teacher all affect our lives and we have no control over this. What we can control is our actions or how we handle the situation to what life throws at us.

In conclusion I guess I don't firmly believe one way or another on this subject I believe it is a mixture of both fate & our own control.
-S. McManus

Anonymous said...

Juliana Ahern 9/17/09 English D Predestination Essay

The idea that your life is already mapped out and planed for you interests me very much. The thought of it makes me think life is even more mysterious and complex, but I really don’t see how it’s possible. I think people are the only ones responsible for the outcomes of their lives.

An example of this type of belief system in the modern world might be with people who study and follow Greek mythology. In their stories, there are three old women who thread your life together using a thread and cut it. If the thread was long, then you lived long. If was short, your life would be short. Perhaps that’s where the phrase “their life was cut short” came from.

People who practice the religion Christianity might believe in a system similar to predestination but a little different. They believe that if they follow the Bible, their “fate” will be good and free of troubles. Plus, they have Heaven to look forward to in the afterlife. Christians still choose the way they want to live but God chooses your fate for the afterlife.

Anonymous said...

Belief in predestination does exist in some form today. Many people believe in it in their own certain way. Depending on who the person is they may have a different outlook on predestination and if it does exist. Some people believe that your life may be planned out for you, and that you can not change the way things turn out. While others might believe that you can determine your own fate and decide your own outcome by your actions in life. So the answer to the question is yes, belief in predestination does exist in some form today.

Well it all depends on the person and how they think about things. So in some ways we do believe in the same philosophy and other ways we do not. It all depends on a persons belief though, and how the interpret them. Another thing in life that people think about is if predestination relates to or conflicts with the “American Dream” . Predestination would relate to the “American Dream” because it is somewhat planned out for you, in certain ways. Also in other ways it kind of conflicts with it because the “ American Dream” can be interpreted in many different ways. So basically it depends on who the person is and what there outlook on things is, to decide whether or not the it conflicts or relates to.



There are many different ways to categorize the belief systems of our world today. One way that you might categorize them is by how popular the belief is, so basically depending on how many people believe that certain belief. Another way of categorizing them is by the belief, so what you would do is take each belief and put it under a certain category. Meaning that you would pick certain categories in which you could put more then one belief in. There are many other ways but those seem to be very simple and easy to understand.

I believe that I can control my own fate. If I do want I want to in life I will receive what I have put into it. That means that whatever I do in life will determine the outcome. By making the right choices and doing the right things I can live a good and fulfilling life, but if I make the wrong choices and do bad things I will live a very bad and not so fulfilling life. So what I am trying to say is that I create my own destiny, its not something that someone or myself can just map out.

- Brittany Gillon, Class: G

Anonymous said...

Predestination does and doesn’t exist in some form today. You may possibly have your destiny planned out, but that doesn’t mean that you have to actually follow that and make it true. That’s what’s good because you can do whatever you want to do with your life and no one can change that. Everyone has there own opinion on this but I personally think that u can have absolutely everything and do one little thing wrong and the rest of your life could be ruined. That’s why it may not be true. A reason why it could be true is that if your family is high in rank with the government or something like that, it’s most likely you would follow them.
I think some people subscribe to a similar philosophy. It all depends on what that person believes. They could grow up with the thought that they are going to do whatever their family is doing. Parents also have a huge impact on their child’s predestination because they could tell there child as they are growing up what they are expected to do in life. Some parents may even force it upon their children whether they like it or not.
People may also think about if predestination relates or conflicts with the “American Dream”. It would relate to it because it is in some way planned for you, but you could change it in a second if you choose to do so. It depends on whom and what the person believes in. if someone doesn’t believe that predestination exists then they would be part of the conflict. As if someone did then they would relate to it. Many people have their own opinions and will say many different things.
I think I would categorize the belief systems of our world today to be either non existent or impossible to count. Which ever way you prefer to think about the topic would be what you believe in. There are so many different people that came from all over the world. In which all of them have different beliefs and that is what makes it difficult to decide how to categorize it. Since mostly everyone believes in different things, it is impossible to have just one category for it. Some people believe strongly that your destiny is planned out for you. That is ok, but I believe that you can change your destiny simply by doing different things. For example, you could get hurt playing a sport, and if that was your destiny, then it would change if you injury was that serious. Also for example, if a family owns a business, they would expect their children to take over and keep it running. Those people are the ones that believe in predestination.
I personally don’t think my destiny is planned out for me. I have no clue what I am going to do after high school. I am hoping to go to college but that could always change. I want to do something in the medical field but that could also change depending on how I do in school. The one thing I do know is that I have to roads I can choose from. Road one would be, not getting good grades, giving up on life and failing. Road two would be getting good grades and actually making my life worth living. So basically I’m saying that anything could happen that could change your destiny at any time.

Courtney D said...

Predestination does and doesn’t exist in some form today. You may possibly have your destiny planned out, but that doesn’t mean that you have to actually follow that and make it true. That’s what’s good because you can do whatever you want to do with your life and no one can change that. Everyone has there own opinion on this but I personally think that u can have absolutely everything and do one little thing wrong and the rest of your life could be ruined. That’s why it may not be true. A reason why it could be true is that if your family is high in rank with the government or something like that, it’s most likely you would follow them.
I think some people subscribe to a similar philosophy. It all depends on what that person believes. They could grow up with the thought that they are going to do whatever their family is doing. Parents also have a huge impact on their child’s predestination because they could tell there child as they are growing up what they are expected to do in life. Some parents may even force it upon their children whether they like it or not.
People may also think about if predestination relates or conflicts with the “American Dream”. It would relate to it because it is in some way planned for you, but you could change it in a second if you choose to do so. It depends on whom and what the person believes in. if someone doesn’t believe that predestination exists then they would be part of the conflict. As if someone did then they would relate to it. Many people have their own opinions and will say many different things.
I think I would categorize the belief systems of our world today to be either non existent or impossible to count. Which ever way you prefer to think about the topic would be what you believe in. There are so many different people that came from all over the world. In which all of them have different beliefs and that is what makes it difficult to decide how to categorize it. Since mostly everyone believes in different things, it is impossible to have just one category for it. Some people believe strongly that your destiny is planned out for you. That is ok, but I believe that you can change your destiny simply by doing different things. For example, you could get hurt playing a sport, and if that was your destiny, then it would change if you injury was that serious. Also for example, if a family owns a business, they would expect their children to take over and keep it running. Those people are the ones that believe in predestination.
I personally don’t think my destiny is planned out for me. I have no clue what I am going to do after high school. I am hoping to go to college but that could always change. I want to do something in the medical field but that could also change depending on how I do in school. The one thing I do know is that I have to roads I can choose from. Road one would be, not getting good grades, giving up on life and failing. Road two would be getting good grades and actually making my life worth living. So basically I’m saying that anything could happen that could change your destiny at any time.

Mitchell said...

Back in Shakespeare's time, people believed that God chose your destiny before you were born called Predestination. In this time period, people might believe both, Predestination and the “American Dream.” The “American Dream” is different than Predestination because in Predestination your destiny was believed to be chosen for you, while the “American Dream” is when your destiny is not chosen for you, you create your destiny.



No, I do not think that Predestination exists in some form today because during the 16th century people believed Predestination, and now in the 21st century, I think people do not believe that God chose your destiny before you were born. I think we subscribe to a similar philosophy today. I think Predestination conflicts with the "American Dream," I think this because they are two separate things like I said in the beginning of this paragraph, Predestination is destiny chosen for you, "American Dream" is destiny not chosen for you.



I might categorize the belief systems of our world today is that the American Dream is what people believe today, not Predestination. I believe that the American Dream is living free and doing what you want to do, not what anyone else wants you to do. No, I do not believe that my destiny is mapped out for me, but I do that I believe my own fate. This is what I think Predestination and the American Dream is.

Mitchell said...

Back in Shakespeare's time, people believed that God chose your destiny before you were born called Predestination. In this time period, people might believe both, Predestination and the “American Dream.” The “American Dream” is different than Predestination because in Predestination your destiny was believed to be chosen for you, while the “American Dream” is when your destiny is not chosen for you, you create your destiny.



No, I do not think that Predestination exists in some form today because during the 16th century people believed Predestination, and now in the 21st century, I think people do not believe that God chose your destiny before you were born. I think we subscribe to a similar philosophy today. I think Predestination conflicts with the "American Dream," I think this because they are two separate things like I said in the beginning of this paragraph, Predestination is destiny chosen for you, "American Dream" is destiny not chosen for you.



I might categorize the belief systems of our world today is that the American Dream is what people believe today, not Predestination. I believe that the American Dream is living free and doing what you want to do, not what anyone else wants you to do. No, I do not believe that my destiny is mapped out for me, but I do that I believe my own fate. This is what I think Predestination and the American Dream is.

-Mitchell Robey Class: E

Anonymous said...

Rachel Smith
Period G

Predestination was used a lot in Shakespears time, but it is still used today. In Shakespears time predestination was a very big deal, now not as many people think of it like they did. They thought of it as the stars told them what was going to happen, now we think of it as god plans it out. We don't know what god plans, but we see what he plans as our lives go on.

One form of predestination is the people that come into our lives. I have a friend and he has helped me through a lot. I don't know why he came into my life, but I know he did for a reason. There could be many reasons he did to help me through problems or just to be there for me as a friend. I don't know why I said hi to him one day considering I never talked to him before but I did and he is now a good friend, predestination could have some reason for me talking to him. People come in and out of our lives we don't know why all we know is that they do.

Another form of predestination is dreams and how they come true or not. We can will dreams to happen but does that mean that they were supposed to happen or did predestination make it so we willed it to happen. If we can make dreams happen there is usually a reason why it worked. I do believe that we can change our dreams if the original ones don't work. I feel that if we are willed enough then we can change our destinations.

Predestination back then was used looking into the stars and seeing what was going to happen in your life. People now look to god to see what will happen to them. I personally don't believe in this I believe we can control what will happen to us. If we want something bad enough then we can get it without wondering if it is our destiny to do so. I feel that we can achieve our dreams without looking to god or the stars to achieve these dreams.

Anonymous said...

Predestination is the belief that when you are born your fate has already been decided for you and there is nothing that you could do or say to change it. I do think that today many people still believe in predestination. People are always saying, “This is what I was born to do.” Our philosophy is somewhat different than that of William Shakespeare, but some of us spend our whole lives trying to find that thing that fits us perfectly and we just don’t find it. Some of us do but it takes a very long time. And some of us immediately know what it is we should do with our lives.
This concept can interfere with the “American Dream” or it can help people to make it happen. Some people may think that their predestination is to live that dream and then they do. Others may want to live that dream but they might believe that their predestination has nothing to do with it. This could conflict with the “American Dream”.
There are many ways to describe and categorize the beliefs of our world today. There are a couple different groups of people. One of those groups is people that believe in predestination, who go along with life knowing that predestination will bring their future to them. And then there are the people that think they are the ones that will find out there future and they believe that they can do anything that they want to do. There are a couple different views of predestination.
Different people have different views on this but I have my own. I do not think that my destiny is mapped out for me. If it was I think that I would have some kind of idea on what my destiny would be. I believe that as I go on with my life I’ll find what it is that I will be doing for the rest of my life.

-C. Douglas

Rashid said...

I think that your life is planned out in a way but not fully.Because it sometimes depends on the choices you make during life.Like donig the right things and the wrong things all detail what will happened.Predestination seems to take place when you do nothing to change your daily activities and you see the same outcome of what you normally do.

Your life starts and ends at a certain part,sometimes it stops to let you realise what is going around you and then it continues on its way.Let the important things go can destroy your future, Shakepeare the inventer of Predestination wasn't sure of his future I'm sure.

Also the non-important things can sometimes count as valuable.Livig life to its' fullest as some people would say,is the best thing to do but most of them end up never living life in anyway, they wake go to work type and thats it. Nothing ever exciting never happens to them, basically thats when predestination sits in and plans it all out.

And thats my opinion on Shakespeare And Predestination.

Anonymous said...

Matthew Butler
Class:G

I have mixed feelings on the belief of Predestination. I don’t think that our lives are "mappout in the stars," but some times I feel like I don’t have complete control over my life.

An example of predestination that I don’t believe in, is the Greek way of explaining why people pass away. The belief is that three old women would decide the fate of people. The first women would make the yarn, which represented the birth of a child. The last women would cut the line when it was that person’s time to go.

I am a Christian. My belief is that we will receive what we put into our lives. That means we control our lives up until the day we pass on, then our "fate" is decided by God. Weather we go to Heaven or hell has to do with what we have done in our lives.


That’s my theory on predestination and my beliefs. I am interested in what other people will write, so I will be checking this blog and reading what their thoughts are

Anonymous said...

Matthew Butler
Class:G

I have mixed feelings on the belief of Predestination. I don’t think that our lives are "mappout in the stars," but some times I feel like I don’t have complete control over my life.

An example of predestination that I don’t believe in, is the Greek way of explaining why people pass away. The belief is that three old women would decide the fate of people. The first women would make the yarn, which represented the birth of a child. The last women would cut the line when it was that person’s time to go.

I am a Christian. My belief is that we will receive what we put into our lives. That means we control our lives up until the day we pass on, then our "fate" is decided by God. Weather we go to Heaven or hell has to do with what we have done in our lives.


That’s my theory on predestination and my beliefs. I am interested in what other people will write, so I will be checking this blog and reading what their thoughts are

Anonymous said...

I believe that my destiny is mapped out for me, but I can also change it in the future. For example, if your father was a football player, he might want you to become one as well, and find out that is what you want to do with your life.

But on the other hand, I might not want to be a football player, and that is where I can choose my destiny. And no one can tell me what to do. I can always do whatever makes me happy. So if I want to be involved with law, I can do that, if I want to be a journalist, I can do that, and no one can tell me otherwise. But, if any of those other things were to happen, maybe that was the life chosen for me after all. It's these little things that we think about and every one has a different opinion.

So in the long run, whatever any one does with their life, we will never kno if that was already chosen for them, or if they changed fate itself. It's these things to wonder about and think how it all happened for me.
-Jake B.

Anonymous said...

I do not believe in predestination. I believe that anybody can change their destiny if they try hard enough. I also think that people can change their destiny, because a lot of famous people used to be poor and had very little money, but they tried as hard as they could to live the good life, and they made it. Anybody could easily say that everybody’s life is determined by predestination, because they could just say that everything that happened was supposed to happen.

There are many rags to riches stories of people that lived in the hood and had little to no money and now they have more money than they could ever imagine. One of these stories was that of Notorious B.I.G. He grew up in Brooklyn and had so little money that he had to resort to selling drugs at an early age of 12. He started rapping when he was a teenager and later became one of the greatest rappers of all time. I do not believe that this was predetermined, because he showed determination and changed his life on his own.

I think predestination is just a way of trying to scare people into thinking that they can’t change their life or the direction that they are headed in it. People can control what happens to them, and the choices you make every day can change that in a matter of minutes. Each decision you make can change your destiny. It doesn’t matter if you are rich or poor, everything you do has an outcome and whether it’s good or bad, you make it happen.
-Brandon Salvas

Baa12366 said...

Brittany Alioto
9/20/09
English G

Predestination is a concept that was very popular during the Elizabethan era. This concept stated that before you were born; your destiny was planned out for you by God. I believe that even though predestination may not be as popular as it was during Shakespeare life time, it still exists in some form. For instance, fate, have you ever heard someone say “it was fate that brought us together"? Well this is a form of predestination. I believe that predestination still exists today.
Our beliefs today are different from the beliefs of those from Shakespeare’s time. Today, we believe that your life is whatever you make it; you can choose your own path and determine your own future. This is a very different belief then that from the people of Shakespeare’s lifetime.
The whole idea of predestination conflicts with the “American Dream". The American dream is an idea that allows you to make your own future opposed to the idea that your future is already mapped out for you. Our beliefs today are our own. Today people are not stuck being in one spot for their whole life. Our destiny is undefined.
Predestination was a common belief in the Elizabethan era. Even though i do not believe that my whole future was mapped out for me before i was born, doesn’t mean that no one does either. Predestination existed back in the Elizabethan era and still, in some forms, exists today.

Anonymous said...

I do not believe in predestination. I feel like you can change your destiny if you wish. Nothing in life is already planned out unless you accomplish and determine to go for it. For example, if you wanted to become a lawyer, you would have to go to college, then law school and from there, become a lawyer. If you didn't go through that, you wouldn't have a close chance to become a lawyer. You can't just wish you were something and have it be true, you have to build up to it. I believe that i control my own fate, and whatever i choose do do with my life, i will work for it.
-ColleenT

Anonymous said...

Our time to Shakespeare’s era is completely different. In his time everyone went by predestination. This is when your whole life is planned out before you are born.
Predestination is not as popular in our era as it was in Shakespeare’s time. Yes we do subscribe to a similar thing now a days. This would be called the American dream. The American dream is if you work hard you will be successful. A hard working person will have a better life because there working to make their life the best they can. But in the predestination days a person could not work for their future it was already planned out for them.
I think that we control how we want our life to become. If you don’t work hard your life won’t be as great as the person who tries hard at everything they do. If our life was picked out before everyone was born the world would be a lot different than it is now.

Josh Jenkins
Class E

Anonymous said...

The idea of predestination means that people's lives are actually planned for them. But truly, everything happens for a reason, eventually everything is go to fall into place. Forms of predestination still exist today. In my opinion predestination still exists today but people don't know what the concept of predestination is, they either think is good luck or bad luck. But I do believe that if you try hard enough you can change your life if you are determined. I also don't think everyone's life is mapped out in the stars. For example, my mom's a nurse; it doesn't exactly mean that it is my destiny to become a nurse too.

We subscribe to a similar philosophy; we don't really refer to the factor as "predestination", more as fate. Everyone has their own fate and future, some people say it was fate that they married their husband or wife. Predestination relates and conflicts with the American Dream, the American Dream is about life and is happy with your life. If something in your life happens that you don't like, you can't really change it. It's part of your destiny, chose by predestination. Predestination also conflicts with the American Dream because, you most likely are not living in your dream house and it’s no going to be perfect, but it is your life and you should live it.

I think there are many belief systems in our world today. People all have their own opinions and ideas. Not everyone believes in predestination or faith. Everyone can believe his or her own theories. Some people may believe that god has completely planned out everything that is going to happen, the bad and the good because eventually it will all fall together. I think that in some ways my destiny is mapped out for me and other ways it is not. One way my destiny was mapped out was meeting the friends I have today. With out my friends I would be a completely different person. I partially control my own fate; I can control my fate by making the right choices in life. Predestination still exists today.

Sarah Buchan
September 21, 2009
G Block
Blog Essay

Anonymous said...

I think predestination does exist in some form today. I think this because we still hear the phrase, “It was meant to be.” or “It’s your destiny.” I think what we mean is more of a different philosophy than during Shakespearean time. They were more reliant on predestination and we just use it as a saying. I do not think that if you change your future it will necessarily lead to tragedy. It will just lead you on a different path, good or bad.
The American Dream conflicts with predestination because if someone is trying to make their life better, then it will change their future which supposedly will lead to tragedy. In our world today, all our belief systems are different. We all have different opinions in religion and just in overall thought. Some people might believe in predestination but others might disagree.
I believe that your destiny is mapped out for you and you control your own fate. I think your destiny is mapped out for you because what ever you decide to do with your life you will end up with a future which in my opinion is your destiny. In other words, what ever changes you make you will still end up with what was mapped out for you when you were born. I also believe you chose your own fate because you can always change what you want to do in life. Your fate is in your hands.

-Danielle Puopolo

Anonymous said...

The definition of predestinaton is inevitable or fate to which a particular person or this is destined. I think predestination is still used in today's society. I think philosophy is still used in life,but it just depends on the person. It also depends on the life of the child's family because they have to do what their parents do.

Predestination relates to,or conflicts with the American Dream in some ways,but it just depends on the person. Like some people might not believe in predestination and some people might believe in it.You might categorize the belief systems of our world today by the topic or the situation that your talking about.

I believe our destiny is mapped out for us in the beginning when your a child.Then when you grow up you have your own life and nobody can map out your own destiny.So i think that your destiny is mapped out for you when your little and then when you grow up you control your own fate.So i guess you could just say its a little bit of both of destiny being mapped out for you and that you control your own fate.

Anonymous said...

The definition of predestinaton is inevitable or fate to which a particular person or this is destined. I think predestination is still used in today's society. I think philosophy is still used in life,but it just depends on the person. It also depends on the life of the child's family because they have to do what their parents do.

Predestination relates to,or conflicts with the American Dream in some ways,but it just depends on the person. Like some people might not believe in predestination and some people might believe in it.You might categorize the belief systems of our world today by the topic or the situation that your talking about.

I believe our destiny is mapped out for us in the beginning when your a child.Then when you grow up you have your own life and nobody can map out your own destiny.So i think that your destiny is mapped out for you when your little and then when you grow up you control your own fate.So i guess you could just say its a little bit of both of destiny being mapped out for you and that you control your own fate.

Anonymous said...

I think predestination does exist in some form today. I think this because we still hear the phrase, “It was meant to be.” or “It’s your destiny.” I think what we mean is more of a different philosophy than during Shakespearean time. They were more reliant on predestination and we just use it as a saying. I do not think that if you change your future it will necessarily lead to tragedy. It will just lead you on a different path, good or bad.

The American Dream conflicts with predestination because if someone is trying to make their life better, then it will change their future which supposedly will lead to tragedy. In our world today, all our belief systems are different. We all have different opinions in religion and just in overall thought. Some people might believe in predestination but others might disagree.

I believe that your destiny is mapped out for you and you control your own fate. I think your destiny is mapped out for you because what ever you decide to do with your life you will end up with a future which in my opinion is your destiny. In other words, what ever changes you make you will still end up with what was mapped out for you when you were born. I also believe you chose your own fate because you can always change what you want to do in life. Your fate is in your hands.

-Danielle Puopolo

Tyler said...

Tyler .R
9/20/09
English D
Predestination

Predestination is the idea that your life is mapped out for you before you are even born even up to the day you die. However does this really make sense? Well to some people it does, and to some people it doesn’t, but everyone has their own opinion on the subject. In this essay I would essay I would like to express my own opinion on the subject.
This is my opinion on the idea of predestination. You see back in ancient times the idea of predestination was more believable; in the sense that most people did not have as many freedoms so in a way there lives were mapped out for them because they really had no choice as to where their lives would end up. Now today it’s different because we get to choose were we go with our lives, instead of someone telling us okay you’re going to be a baker, you’re going to be a blacksmith, and you’re just going to be the one who does whatever I say when I say it. Now that does not sound fun at all, it kind of makes life really boring, and takes the excitement and the adventure out of living life in the first place. All though it would make life a lot less stressful. I mean think about it you’re guaranteed a job you don’t have to worry about not being able to make money. The only thing that I can think of that even remotely resembles predestination today is the military only because you don’t decide what you do, you have to follow orders, other than that the idea of predestination is hard to point out in today’s world. Another example if you have ever seen the show that’s so raven. This show characterizes the idea of predestination in the sense that raven can see into the future, and most of the time what she’s see’s is not good. What she tries to do is fix it, but it usually ends up causing the event to happen in the first place. Wow that’s confusing its like no matter what you do you can’t stop the future from happening, or at least not the future you don’t want. So it makes you wonder could this idea really exist. It’s not like you know what the future is going to be. For all I know I could die tomorrow while walking to the bus stop god forbid, but what I’m trying is how can you control something you know nothing about? The answer is you can’t so in this sense the idea of predestination is a reasonable possibility. However I still believe that you are in control of your own life, and that nothing else decides your fate. This has been my opinion of predestination thank you, and have a good night.

nkid4200 said...

Predestination

By:Luke Cosgrove


Today People don’t believe in predestination. We found out it was a myth and not a fact. There is different

religions with different beliefs about it but we know our life isn’t mapped out. And tragedy doesn’t happen

because we misled our destiny. We don’t have a destiny. Everyone grows up different ways. And people

change. I think the American dream is being successful and doing the right things. And predestination isn’t

depended on that. Because people make mistakes in life. If you make a mistake its not the end of the world

and you wont die. Unless it’s a horrible one and get into trouble with someone dangerous, then you might

die. But Predestination I don’t believe in. Some people may still believe in it. But hey, its what there

opinion is and mine is different and that isn’t wrong. That’s what predestination is all about.

Anonymous said...

Hannah Labonte.


In the day of Shakespeare, Most English people believed in the term "predestination". The term predestination, basically means that your life is mapped out into the stars before you are born and that you have absolutley no control over where your life will take you. They did not think that what they did or "karma" would control their fate.
Modern day is a lot different than when Shakespeare lived in the 1500's. Most people do not believe in predestination anymore. People are more free today and have their own religious beliefs and concepts. We all look at life from a different angle. Now that it is modern times, More people believe that if you do good things, good things will come to you, also "what goes around comes around".
Predestination relates to the conflict with "The American Dream" because most people do not believe that there life is mapped out in the stars.
No, I would not say that I fit into the "predestination" category and believing that my future is mapped out for me. I strongly believe that if you do good things good things will happen to you. However, I do believe in fate, and that everything does happen for a reason, which in some form does relate to predestination. I also believe that you control your life. I do believe that to an extent, Predestination is still around today.

Anonymous said...

Julie Towne Block G 9/20/09

I think that everyone’s destiny is already mapped out for them. For instance the old saying, “in the end, everything will be how it was supposed to be all along”. You may have a goal you want to reach. If you don’t reach it in the end, that doesn’t mean things didn’t turn out how they were supposed to, it’s just not what you expected. So yes, I think predestination does still exist in some form today.

Predestination does have something to do with the “American dream”, which is mostly freedom do chase your dreams. But if your life is already mapped out for you people might think, that doesn’t go along the lines of “freedom”, or the “American dream”. You could also say that anyone who thinks that may just be over thinking predestination.

It is true you can change what path you take in life. But maybe you were meant to change it all along. And no matter what you do it was supposed to happen that way. No matter how hard you try to go off track and prove that predestination doesn’t exist the more you actually prove it does. I think that you shouldn’t worry about what’s going to happen to you in 5, 7 10 ex. Years because things will be how they were meant to be.

Anonymous said...

I don't believe a person's destiny is mapped out ahead of time. I believe a person controls their own fate by the things they do and the choices they make. There are definitely things in life that can't be controlled and maybe those certain things can be called destiny or whatever, but we still control the biggest parts, which are our own choices and actions.

Even though many things, good and bad, happen for reasons we don't know or can't control, it's still our own choices and actions that follow even after the unexpected things. Little things like meeting someone that becomes a good friend, or big things like a bad accident, or anything we can't control become parts of our destiny or fate, but its still our actions and choices even in dealing with the things we don't know will happen that actually control where we go and what we do.

We control our own fate because we figure out and determine the things we do even when things happen that we can't control. Thats how we map our own destiny.

Nicole A. - Class G

Anonymous said...

I don’t believe a person’s destiny is mapped out. I believe a person controls their own fate, so even if things happen that aren’t in our control, we still control where we go and make our own map as it goes along.

Many things good and bad happen that are unexpected or out of our control, but even with those things include, it is still our own actions and choices that determine where we go through our lives. Even small things such as meeting a person who becomes a good friend, or big things such as a bad accident or event, could possibly be called fate or destiny, but it’s still not those things that control ours. Despite all those things we can’t control, it is the actions and choices that we do control that actually set our fate our destiny.

We control our own fate because we figure out and determine the things we do and where we go. There are things that we can’t control, but despite those and whatever obstacles that come, we make our choices and make our own map.

Nicole A. - Class G

Kristalea B said...

The definition of predestinaton is inevitable or fate to which a particular person or this is destined. I think predestination is still used in today's society. I think philosophy is still used in life,but it just depends on the person. It also depends on the life of the child's family because they have to do what their parents do.

Predestination relates to,or conflicts with the American Dream in some ways,but it just depends on the person. Like some people might not believe in predestination and some people might believe in it.You might categorize the belief systems of our world today by the topic or the situation that your talking about.

I believe our destiny is mapped out for us in the beginning when your a child.Then when you grow up you have your own life and nobody can map out your own destiny.So i think that your destiny is mapped out for you when your little and then when you grow up you control your own fate.So i guess you could just say its a little bit of both of destiny being mapped out for you and that you control your own fate.

Anonymous said...

I believe that predestination is you life already being mapped out for you. I believe in this concept for several different reasons such as how you die or how your life is in general.


I think your life is mapped out for you for many reasons. Some people die of sudden death, and others live through alot of stuff. A person could be in a near death situation and live, or could die suddenly of no cause. Everyday, people are put in risky situations for jobs such as firemen and police or just in everyday life and live, but many do die. If some one had been shot in a bad spot of their body and lived they would be concidered lucky, but would that be a cause of predestination or just luck? If their life had already been mapped out for them by predestination, that could be the real reason that the made it through the gunshot. Only God would know that this would happen and that the person would be okay but everyone else wouldn't know what to think until the end and the person was better.

Also, you could go to the doctors be very healthy and have a sudden death the next day. This is predestination because your life would be mapped out for you and God would know you were going to die. Their could be many reasons that this happened to you but I believe it would be from predestination.

You could have the worst luck, be poor and feel like your going nowhere in life but grow up to be a famous millionaire. This could happen by predestination because you could get fired from your job being the unlucky person you are and then go out and get the job of your dreams out of nowhere and turn out to be a millionaire. This would be caused by predestination because it had just happened unexpectedly but, in your behalf worked out great. You would get the job out of nowhere because it had been mapped out for you so God knew it would happen. This would be a good thing to happen because God could know that you yould be okay as long as you tried in the long run.

These are my three examples of predesinations. Also, these show that their are reasons for everything, even if you dont know what they are at the moment. Its all because of predestination and having your life mapped out for you.

Jessyca Dowdy
Block G

Anonymous said...

The definition of predestinaton is inevitable or fate to which a particular person or this is destined. I think predestination is still used in today's society. I think philosophy is still used in life,but it just depends on the person. It also depends on the life of the child's family because they have to do what their parents do.

Predestination relates to,or conflicts with the American Dream in some ways,but it just depends on the person. Like some people might not believe in predestination and some people might believe in it.You might categorize the belief systems of our world today by the topic or the situation that your talking about.

I believe our destiny is mapped out for us in the beginning when your a child.Then when you grow up you have your own life and nobody can map out your own destiny.So i think that your destiny is mapped out for you when your little and then when you grow up you control your own fate.So i guess you could just say its a little bit of both of destiny being mapped out for you and that you control your own fate.

Kristalea Beatrice

22569 said...

I remember during my sophomore year, my history teacher Mr.Eanglehardt or his street name "Easy-E" as the other kids and I called him was really funny.He had all of these crazy stories about himself and taught us the history of World War I.He promised to tell us the story of his third job but he's not here anymore, he retired at the beginning of this year. He told us his story of his 4th wife though. But when I was in his class he would say "hopefully two years from now I am going to offically retire". He also said "my first destined job was to be a carpenter, my second destined job was to become an english teacher, my third destined job was to be a... remind me to tell you the story later".

Anonymous said...

Predestination exists today as a religious (Christian) doctrine according to which a person’s ultimate destiny, whether it is salvation or damnation, is determined by god. Some faiths except the concept of predestination, others do not. Predestination is found more widely among catholic faiths. Those that do not subscribe to the idea of predestination usually believe that people control their own fate. Either idea is valid. Other faiths believe that predestination has nothing to do with anything. Until someone finds a way to prove or disprove the concept of predestination, anyone’s ideas, explanations, or beliefs are valid. I don’t think predestination has anything to do with the
“American Dream”. People in America can go out and make their own dreams come true if they work for it. The separation of church and state protect this country. There are many religions, in the world today, hundreds, each one with it’s own beliefs and customs. Predestination may or may not be part of them. Predestination is primarily a catholic doctrine. Personally, I believe we control are own fate. You live your life, do what you do and control things. Although the obvious question comes in to play when things we can’t control enter our lives. That’s when the question comes in to play and asks –What is life really all about?

-Kevin Belt

Jake said...

1. I think predestiantion is still around today. In our day i think we would call it destiny or a proficy. It's very simalar to predestination if its your destiny you were born to profill your destiny. If it is a proficy it has been written out for you and you will do somthing that changes somthing else.

2. Yes, some people belive if you were bad in your last life your next life will be bad. If you were rich you would be poor, or if you were poor you will be rich. Some people also belive that your actions come back around wich would be none as carma.

3. The American dream is diffrent to diffrent people. If predestination exists you may not get to do what you want but what was planed out for you.

4. The belief system today has decressed. Less people are real big on religeon. I do think alot of people may belive in predestination.

5. I dont think our lives are mapped out for us. I belive in carma, so if i do a good thing some thing good will happen in return and same vise versa.

Jacob Nordbeck
period G

Anonymous said...

I would imagine the belief in predestination is still practiced today, and is still believed in many forms of religions, such as catholic, or Christian. Predestination simply means that you believe what is going to happen in the afterlife, or nirvana or if you go to heaven or not. Predestination is believed by millions of people, and then some other believes in free will. Predestination is just part of religion, and if you believe it or not, and if you do then you have to be good to know where you go. That is what I think on if the belief of predestination is practiced today.
I think other people, a good portion of the world today, or 25% of people believe in free will, and that you can choose what you want to do, and you have control of your own life. The people, who think this, probably think that it is ok to do whatever you want, and maybe you do get punished but it’s not bad. If you believe in free will you believe that you control your life, and only you. You believe you choose your own fate, and what you do happens, and happens on its own. People like that probably don’t believe in catholic or Christian religion, or if they do it is another form of its own.
The American dream is that we all live in our lives and that we have a family and kids, and then we die. The American dream is the simple life, and it involves the simple necessities of live. That is what I think of the American dream. I would categorize the belief system in the world today is based on faith, and possible religion. I believe that my life is already mapped out for me, and I can’t change it.
That is what I think on the topic of predestination. My life is already mapped out for me, and I can’t change it. I believe that the American dream is just a simple life. I believe that predestination is still believed and practiced today. That is my view on the topics predestination.

-D. Gonsalves

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