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1. Yesterday we discussed tone. Pinpoint the tone of each song (the 2 from yesterday) with one word.
2. Identify 3 devices that serve to support the style of tone you have identified for "Rock and Roll Band". For each device, cite at least 3 quotes that represent it.
3. Identify 3 devices that serve to support the style of tone you have identified for "Have a Cigar". For each device, cite at least 3 quotes that represent it.
4. The "cigar" appears in both songs. Is the cigar functioning as a symbol or a motif? Revisit the definitions, make a decision and defend your designation.
5. Click here to visit the Poetry Foundation. Browse the poems and find one that you like. Examine the tone of the poem and the devices used to achieve it. Construct a thesis statement that includes these 3 devices and a recognition of tone (as the introductory phrase).
6. If you have extra time on your hands, "congratulations for being so efficient" or "shame on you for your haphazard approach". Seriously- be sure that your blog contains all of your recent work- we will be sharing our writing and music soon after term 3 concludes.
17 comments:
1.Rock 'n roll band: Reminiscent
Have a cigar: condescending
2.Rock 'n roll band:
-Local colour imagery:
"playing for a week in Rhode Island"
"Dancin' in the streets of Hyannis"
"we were just another band out of boston"
-Fist person point of view:
"we were getting pretty good at the game"
"we barely made enough to survive"
Wwe got up on stage and got ready to play"
-Holly Wood Cliches:
"he smoked a big cigar"
"Drove a cadillac car"
"sign a record company contract"
3. Have a cigar:
-HollyWood Cliche:
"we call it riding the gravy train"
"it oould be made into a monster"
"name of the game"
-Layered Characterization:
"We call it riding the gravy train"
"I mean that most sincere"
"We're so happy we can hardly count"
-First person Point of view:
"We all pull together as a team"
"we're just knocked out"
"I've always had a deep respect"
4. (NOTHING TO CLICK ON!?!?!?!)
Emily Christy
1. Have A Cigar- alluring
Rock n' Roll Band- exstatic
2. Rock n Roll Band:
-Imagery:"Playin' all the bars, sleepin' in our cars", "practiced right on the street", "smoked a big cigar"
-Local Color:"Dancin' in the streets of Hyannis", "just another band out of Boston", "playin' for a week in Rhode Island"
-Flashback: "try to make ends meet", "didnt have much money", never worry 'bout things we were missing"
3. Have a Cigar:
-Imagery:"Riding the Gravy Train", "You're gonna fly high", "heard about the sell-out"
-Figurative Language: "You're never gunna die", "It could be made into a monster", "You're gunna fly high"
-Characterization:"I've always had a deep respect", "Oh by the way, which ones Pink?", "you owe it to the people"
4. It is a motif becase it is contrasting the idea of habing money. It shows how wealthy the producers are compared to the poor band players. It also shows that money isnt anything to them because they have so much of it that they can afford cigars and cadillac cars, while the people who are the ones doing the playing only have their music.
1. "Rock n' Roll Band" - Exhilirated
"Have a Cigar" - Cynical
2. Understatement- "just another band out of Boston", "we didn't have much money", "we were getting pretty good at the game"
Diction- "people came alive", "dancin' in the streets", "drove a Cadillac car"
Local color- "out of Boston", "The streets of Hyannis", "a week in Rhode Island"
3. Diction- "you owe it to the people", "come in here, Dear Boy", "could be made into a monster"
Characterization- "so happy we can hardly count", "everybody else is just green", "you're never gonna die"
Hyperbole- "you're never gonna die", "it could be made into a monster", "we're so happy we can hardly count"
4. The cigars appear as a symbol of success and wealth. For Boston, the cigar the "man" is smoking is symbolic of what they desire, and admire. For Pink Floyd, the cigar being offered represent something similar-- it is symbolic of money, and the deciept with which is is made.
5. Establishing a tranquil, dreamy tone in "Petition", Dilruba Ahmed combines natural imagery, interwoven synesthesia and exaggerated figurative language in order to illuminate the beautiful and intoxicating power of "spring".
1. "Rock n' Roll Band": exhilarated
"Have a Cigar": alluring
2. imagery: "But when we got up on stage and got ready to play-People came alive"
repetition: "Play, play, play,yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah"
cliche: "He smoked a big cigar-Drove a Cadillac car"
3. symbolism: "Come in here, Dear boy, have a cigar"
anaphora: "You're gonna go far-You're gonna fly high-You're never gonna die"
metaphor: "We call it Riding the Gravy Train"
4. In "Rock n' Roll Band" I see the cigar as a symbol. It is used only once and as a characterization of the record guy, attaching wealth and status to him. Although, I also interpret the cigar as a small symbol of corruption as well, it may serve to possibly reveal the man's true intent. Secondly, in "Have a Cigar", I believe the cigar is still a symbol despite it being the title as well as appearing in the actual song. If it were a motif I would have expected it to be used more prevelantly throughout the song's entirety. In regards to meaning, I believe it serves the same purpose as the 1st song, but here it resembles an even darker theme, deception. I imagine the man passing the cigar to the boy as if it were a token to obtain his admiration and interest, but only to serve the man's greedy, selfish desires. Ultimately, the cigars in both songs mean the same thing, they are just presented by the authors of each song in a different manner to achieve a more specifc intended effect.
Tyler Derksen
1. Rock and Roll Band- Upbeat
Have a Cigar- Conceived
2. Rock and Roll Band-
Imagery- But when we got up on stage and got ready to play people came alive
Point of view- A man came to the stage one night
He smoked a big cigar,
Drove a Cadillac car and said,
"Boys, I think this band's outtasight”
And characterization- You know everybody knew our name
3. Have a Cigar-
Point of View -Come on over here boy, have a cigar, you're gonna go far
You're gonna fly high, you're never gonna die
You're gonna make it if you try they're gonna love you
Imagery- We're so happy we can hardly count
Characterization-Well I've always had a deep respect and I mean that most sincerely
But the band is just fantastic that is really what I think
Oh by the way, which one's Pink?
4. I see the Cigar as a symbol of the life of a successful band because it is addictive like a drug. Because at first your band is all happy and amazed by not only your success but what your success brings you and then after a while you get used to it and you end up think that everything is great and you want to experiment and try to take it to the next level which could be commit a crime, doing dangerous drugs, or even drinking before a show.
5. Gotham Wanes
People always try to hide who they really other are wheatear they are lying or perhaps they are wearing a disguise to hide their true identity. In Gotham Wanes Bryan D. Dietrich writes with a dark tone , deep characterization and a first person point of view to display what people are hiding behind these mask.
Chris Robinson
PoS G Block
1. "Rock n' Roll Band"-Remeniscient, "Have a Cigar"-Ironic
2. "Rock 'n Roll Band" Tone: "Anticipating love and music," "Play, play, play, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah," "And said, boys, I think this bands outta-sight." Imagery: "Playin' all the bars, sleepin' in our cars," "People came alive," "Dancin' in the streets of Hyannis." Characterization: "And we practiced right right on out in the street," "No, we didn't have much money," "He smoked a big cigar/ Drove a Cadillac car."
3. "Have a Cigar" Tone: "Oh by the way, which one's Pink?" "And did we tell you the name of the game, boy?" "We call it Riding the Gravy Train." Characterization: "Have you seen the chart?" "You owe it to the people," "Everybody else is just green." Imagery: "You're gunna go far," "You're gunna fly high," "You're never gunna die."
4. The cigar is shown in both songs, which is respresented as wealth. In "Rock 'n Roll Band," Boston's symbolic meaning wealth runs from the fact that the man smoked a "big cigar," and drove "a Cadillac car," serving to show extreme wealth, especially since the cigar was large. In "Have a Cigar, Pink Floyd has a similar representation of the cigar, yet slightly different, as the man offered "a cigar," meaning that the band was offered the wealth in place of the man showing off his own. However, in both songs, the record executives were the ones carrying the cigars and wanted a "record company contract" from the bands, serving to prove that the cigar not only means success, but greed because the executives wanted mroe money for themselves from the contract deal that would be signed between them and the bands.
5. Transitioning between the partying and other activities of Halloween in "All Souls," Collier presents macabre characterization, dark humor, and ominous setting to illuminate that the government loves "what we've become" and "what we are," in representation of the government being nothing but evil, greedy monsters.
Emily B.
1. The tone of the song “Rock n’ Roll Band” can be classified as nostalgic. The tone of the song “Have a Cigar” can be classified as detached.
2. Symbolism- “getting pretty good at the game,” “smoked a big cigar,” and “drove a Cadillac car.”
Imagery/ Local Color- “Dancin’ in the streets of Hyannis,” “sleepin’ in our cars,” and “up on stage and got ready to/ play/ people came alive.”
Characterization- “we were just another band out of Boston,” “we didn’t have much money/ we barely made enough to survive,” and “never worry ‘bout the things we were missing.”
3. Symbolism- “have a cigar,” “we can hardly count,” and “the name of the game boy?/ we call it Riding the Gravy Train.”
Ambiguity- “we heard about the sell- out,” “everybody else is just green” and “it could be made into a monster.”
Characterization- “The band is just fantastic. . .which one’s Pink?”, “you’re never gonna die,” and “you gotta get and album out/ you owe it to the people.”
4. In both “Rock n’ Roll Band” and “Have a Cigar” by Boston and “Pink Floyd respectfully a “cigar is mentioned and utilized as a motif to help develop the theme of both artists’ climb to fame. In “Rock n’ Roll Band” the listeners are brought back to the origination of the band concluding with an agent who “smoked a big cigar” finding them. The cigar is utilized to show the importance and power of the man and aids the speaker to convey his awe and disbelief at the rapid climb to fame his fellow band members and he have just experienced. Likewise, in “Have a Cigar” the agent offers the boy a “cigar” upon entering the office. This cigar too, is used to show the importance and power of the man, however, while the other band was excited to be discovered, this band feels almost uncomfortable with this opportunity to become a “sensation.” The “cigar” addressed in both songs acts as a motif to portray the two very different themes about the rise to fame.
5. Reflected through an optimistic tone in “Bright Day,” Stanley Moss utilizes angelic allusion, peaceful personification, and confident characterization in order to articulate that in the place of fearing death, one should live as if they “cannot die.”
1. Tone of “Rock n’ Roll Band” : Exciting
Tone of “Have a Cigar”: Commanding
2. “Rock n’ Roll Band” : Imagery –“ Rock and roll band/Everybody’s waitn’/ Getting crazy”;”But when we got up on stage and got ready to play/People came alive.”;”You know everybody knew our name”
Allusion- “Dancin’ in the streets of Hyannis”;Well, we were just another band out of Boston”;”Playin for a week in Rhode Island”;
Rhyme- “On the road to try to make ends meet/And we practiced right on out in the street”;”Good at the game/everybody knew our name”;”big cigar/Cadillac car”;”made enough to survive/People came alive”
3. “Cigar” : Symbolism: “We call it riding the Gravy Train”;Everybody else is just green”; “And did we tell you the name of the game boy?”
Allusion: “Oh by the way, which one’s Pink?”;”Have you seen the chart?”; “We call it Riding the Gravy Train”
Rhyme: “Come in here, Dear boy, have a cigar,/you’re gonna go far”;”What I think/Which one is Pink?”; “Never gunna die/if you try”
4. The cigar is considered to be a motif because it occurs in both songs. It represents the theme of power, and also something bigger than being an unknown band before becoming widely known after being signed.
5. The poem I chose is “Bright Day” by Stanley Moss
Thesis: Through a positive tone in “Bright Day” Stanley Moss uses naturalistic imagery, helpful allusions, and detailed rhyming in order to show that someone should think every day that” I live because I live.”
Dan Fillingim
1. Have a cigar: tone - inspirational
Rock n roll band: tone – excited
2. HAVE A CIGAR – imagery, point of view, characterization
Imagery- “You’re gonna fly high”
Point of view- “You’re gonna go far”, ”You’re never gonna die”,”we’re just knocked out”
Characterization- “we heard about the sell-out”
3. ROCK AND ROLL BAND- local color, irony, point of view
Local color-“Dancin in the streets of Hyannis”,”Playin for a week in Rhode Island”
Irony- “playin all the bars, sleepin in our cars…” then they go to”You’re goin to be a sensation”
Point of view- “Well, we were just another band out of boston”
4. The cigar is a symbol in both of the songs; it is a symbol of relaxation because of your success and money. In “rock n’ roll band” the man trying to get them a record deal is clearly a rich man with his nice car and he is smoking a cigar. Then in “have a cigar” it is a similar situation and the person convincing a “boy” that he is a good artist tells the kid to have a cigar. This is to show him what it is like to be wealthy and showing him what it will be like when he takes the mans record deal.
Tone of “Rock n’ Roll Band:” enthusiastic
Tone of “Have a Cigar:” ironic
RNRB:
Device: Cliché Quote: “People came alive.”
Device: Hyperbole Quote: “Gettin’ crazy”
Device: Repetition Quote:“Yeah yeah yeah yeah”
HAC:
Device: Irony Quote: “This band is just fantastic/that is really what I think/Oh by the way, which one’s Pink?”
Device: Hyperbole Quote: “You’re never gonna die”
Device: Satire Quote: “Well I’ve always had a deep respect/and I mean that most sincere”
Cigar: Symbol
Represents the record companies
Tone of “Rock n’ Roll Band:” enthusiastic
Tone of “Have a Cigar:” ironic
RNRB:
Device: Cliché Quote: “People came alive.”
Device: Hyperbole Quote: “Gettin’ crazy”
Device: Repetition Quote:“Yeah yeah yeah yeah”
HAC:
Device: Irony Quote: “This band is just fantastic/that is really what I think/Oh by the way, which one’s Pink?”
Device: Hyperbole Quote: “You’re never gonna die”
Device: Satire Quote: “Well I’ve always had a deep respect/and I mean that most sincere”
Cigar: Symbol
Represents the record companies
Rock n Roll Band
Tone: blissful
Device 1: Local Color
"we were just another band out of Boston"
"Dancin' in the streets of Hyannis"
"Playin' for a week in Rhode Island"
Device 2: Flashback
"Playin' all the bars, sleepin' on our cars"
"we barely made enough to survive/but when we got up on stage and got ready to play/people came alive"
"we were getting pretty good at the time/people stood in line and didn't seem to mind"
"we were getting pretty good at the game"
Device 3: Imagery
"we practiced every night right on out in the street"
"he smoked a big cigar/drove a Cadillac car"
"everybody's waitin'/gettin' crazy"
Have a Cigar
Tone: alluring
Device 1: Anaphora
"You're gonna go far/You're gonna fly high/You're gonna make it, if you try"
"You gotta get an album out/You owe it to the people"
"It's a hell of a start/It could be made into a monster"
Device 2: Characterization
"Well I've always had deep respect.../Oh by the way, which one's Pink?"
"Come in here, Dear boy, have a cigar"
"we're so happy we can hardly count"
Device 3: Figurative Language
"We call it Ridicing the Gravy Train"
"Everybody else is just green"
"It could be made into a monster"
The cigar acts as a symbol, simply because of how it is encorporated into the songs. In this case, the cigars are used as a sort of status symbol, because the only people smoking them are record producers/executives/etc. They act as a representation of the success that comes with being in a powerful postition within the music industry.
Meghan Burgess
1) One word to describe the tone of the song “Rock n’ Roll Band” by Boston is reminiscent. One word to describe the tone of the song “Have a Cigar” by Pink Floyd is supercilious.
2) Imagery
-“sleepin’ in our cars/ and we practiced right out on the street”
-“people stood in line and didn’t seem to mind”
-“he smoked a big cigar/ drove a Cadillac car”
Local Color
-“well, we were just another band out of Boston”
-“dancin’ in the streets of Hyannis”
-“playin’ for a week in Rhode Island”
Narrative
-“we barely made enough to survive”
-“you know everybody knew our name”
-“sign a record company contract
3) Characterization
-“well I’ve always had a deep respect”
-“come in here, dear boy, have a cigar”
-“we’re so happy we can hardly count”
Ambiguity
-“you’re never gonna die”
-“everybody else is just green”
-“it could be made into a monster”
Sarcasm
-“the band is just fantastic”
-“you owe it to the people”
-“well I’ve always had a deep respect”
4) In both of the songs, the “cigar” is acting as a motif, representing the symbol of wealth in music industry. In “Rock n’ Roll Band,” the man who “smoked a big cigar” was the man who made this band famous, and his cigar could be the identifier that this man knows how to make them famous. In “Have a Cigar,” this man and the band start off by having “a cigar,” then the man continues on to tell him how famous he will become. In both of these songs, a cigar is given to men in the music industry trying to advocate bands in their careers.
5) Through a hopeful tone in “Now It Is Fall,” Edith Södergran uses natural imagery, gloomy personification, and promising narrative in order to show that although it is the end of an exciting time “reunion…is certain.”
Emily Anderson
1. The tone of the song “Rock n’ Roll Band” by Boston is reminiscent. The tone of “Have a Cigar” by Pink Floyd is supercilious.
2. Local color: “We were just another band out of Boston”
“Dancin’ in the streets of Hyannis”
“Playin’ for a week in Rhode Island”
Imagery: “He smoked a big cigar, drove a Cadillac car”
“Playin’ all the bars, sleepin’ in our cars”
“Everybody’s waitin’, gettin’ crazy”
Characterization: “He smoked a big cigar, drove a Cadillac car”
“Everybody’s waitin’, gettin’ crazy”
“Playin’ all the bars, sleepin’ in our cars, and we practiced right out in the street”
3. Sarcasm: “The band is just fantastic, that is really what I think”
“You owe it to the people”
“Well I’ve always had a deep respect, and I mean that most sincere”
Symbolism: “We call it Riding the Gravy Train”
“It could be made into a monster if we all pull together as a team”
“You’re never gonna die”
Ambiguity: “You’re never gonna die”
“Oh by the way, which one’s Pink?”
“Everybody else is just green”
4. The cigars that appear in both “Rock n’ Roll Band” and “Have a Cigar” are motifs. In both of the songs, the cigar that is mentioned is a symbol that helps to convey that musical fame is run by record executives and other big wigs. In “Rock n’ Roll Band,” Boston uses the depiction of a man who “smoked a big cigar” and “drove a Cadillac car.” This creates the image of a rich man who holds a high position in the music industry. In “Have a Cigar,” Pink Floyd uses an action of one of these executives telling a “dear boy” to “have a cigar.” This shows the authority that the man offering the cigar has over the “boy.” The cigars in Boston’s and Pink Floyd’s songs serve as motifs that show the power that people in the music industry have to make people famous.
5. With the use of a matter-of-fact tone in the poem “To the Mannequins,” Howard Nemerov utilizes conflicting imagery, harsh characterization, and a shifting mood to show the fate of an unwanted mannequin when it is “no good to anybody.”
Anna Sweeney
1. The tone of “Rock n’ Roll Band” by Boston is optimistic. The tone of “Have a Cigar” is kind of arrogant.
2. Characterization: “Playin’ all the bars, sleepin’ in our cars/ And we practiced right out in the street” “But when we got up on stage and got ready to play” “And said, boys, I think this band outta-sight” Local Color: “Well we were just another band out of Boston” “Dancin’ in the streets of Hyannis” “Playin’ for a week in Rhode Island”
Imagery: “A man came to the stage one night/ he smoked a big cigar/ drove a Cadillac car” “People stood in line and didn’t seem to mind” “When I hear you on the car radio”
Local Color: “Well we were just another band out of Boston” “Dancin’ in the streets of Hyannis” “Playin’ for a week in Rhode Island” Imagery: “A man came to the stage one night/ he smoked a big cigar/ drove a Cadillac car” “People stood in line and didn’t seem to mind” “When I hear you on the car radio”
3. Hyperbole: “You’re never gonna die” “We’re just knocked out” “You’re gonna fly high”
Ambiguity: “We’re so happy we can hardly count” “Everybody else is just green” “And did we tell you the name of the game, boy?”
Imagery: “Come in here, Dear boy, have a cigar” “It could be made into a monster” “We heard about the sell-out”
4. I think the cigar is a motif in the songs because the idea of what it is in each song contrasts. In “Rock n’ Roll Band” the cigar help describe the way this man approaching them looks like. In “Have a Cigar” it is being given to the band to introduce them.
5. The word lighthearted identifies the tone by the use of naturalistic imagery, wild local color, and maturing characterization in “Snow Tiger” by Yusef Komunyakaa in order to show the way things live in the wild.
1. Rock n’ Roll Band
tone: excited
Have a cigar
tone: manipulative
2. Tone
-“people came alive”
-“you’re goin’ to be a sensation”
-“Getting’ crazy”
Imagery
-“Playin’ all the bars, sleepin’ in our cars”
-“He smoked a big cigar, drove a Cadillac car”
-“Dancin’ in the streets of Hyannis”
Repetition
-“Rock and roll band”
-“play, play, play”
-“yeah, yeah, yeah”
3. I don’t really get what to do here..
Patronizing tone- “boys, I think this band is outta-sight”
cocky tone- “You know I’ve great expectations”
promising tone- “you’re going to be a sensation!”
4. The cigar is used as a motif, because it directly relates to the image of a rich Manager.
5. Leaving the hospital- Anya Silver
Personification:- the earth’s breath
- the nighttime cries
- life, holding off pain with it’s muscular wings
1. The tone in the song “Have a Cigar” by Pink Floyd is a mix of enthusiasm and confidence from the speaker’s point of view, telling them that he’s always “had a deep respect” even though he seemingly knows nothing of them. However, from the songwriters view, it seems as though they are being sarcastic and mocking what he has to say
3. Sarcasm: In the lyrics, Pink Floyd shows their sarcasm through what the producer says, such as “The band is just fantastic, that is really what I think. Oh by the way, which one's Pink?” This shows that the person about to sign the band seems to know very little of them and just wants to make money off of them, as does the quote “We’re so happy we can hardly count.” It points out that all the company really cares about is making money, since it’s all part of the game they call “Riding the Gravy Train,”
Symbolism: The symbolism of saying “Come in here, Dear boy, have a cigar” is quite significant for this song. Immediately the audience recognizes the speaker as someone rich, willing to give a cigar to anyone that he can make money off of, which seems to be a game to him: “We call it Riding the Gravy Train.” The gravy train is something everyone takes from, easily thought of as money. The band can be thought of as the train, while it’s producers are taking from them, bleeding them dry. Lastly, he says to them “It could be made into a monster if we all pull together as a team.” Knowing the background of the band, the album is dedicated to their former guitarist, Syd Barrett. Sadly, he had to leave the band many years ago. It is quite possible the monster they are referring to is Syd. He was a normal guy, but turned into a drug addict and developed mental illnesses.
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